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No Name Said,
February 10th, 2008 @10:21 pm  

The late Alan Baron used to have the “15 and 50% rule” for cities. If a city was at least 50% black, it would almost certainly have a black mayor (Detroit, DC, Atlanta, etc.). If a city was less than 15% black, it MIGHT have a black mayor because a small minority wouldn’t create all that much tension. (LA [where Tom Bradley won five elections from 1973 onward] and Seattle fit this mold).

On the other hand, if a city was between 16 and 49% black, they probably would NOT have a black mayor. The reasons were simple: at say, 30% black, the community was big to stir up a backlash, but not strong enough to win a majority. New York is the classic example of this at 30% black. David Dinkins has been their first and only black mayor. [Similarly, Harold Washington, who died 20 years ago, was Chicago's first and last black mayor.]

Obama is winning the white voters in states where no one is scared of blacks (North Dakota!). He’s also winning the Deep South states where black Democrats outnumber white Democrats. But in the big states where blacks are mixed in competition with Catholic labor voters, Asians and Hispanics, he’s struggling.

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Vlad Said,
February 10th, 2008 @11:48 pm  

Its time we start looking at candidates beyond their skin color, based on the results I think thats what Americans in the Democratic Primaries are doing.

“its not about white vs black, its about the past vs future” - Obama

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No Name Said,
February 11th, 2008 @4:25 pm  

I generally don’t find sloganeering to be helpful in analysis (”black vs white, past vs future”, etc., whatever dude).

Thus far, it is a fact that Obama is winning in allwhite states (Iowa, Nebraska, Washington) and in heavily black states (Louisiana, etc.).

Hilary is wining big amongst Latinos, women, and working class whites.

Now, one can extrapolate from this trend and predict what will happen in the future … no predictions are possible with slogans (only the prediction that we’ll need even more slogans :).

Best wishes,

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Vlad Said,
February 13th, 2008 @2:17 am  

Well this is whats great & different about Obama, is that its not just a slogan, it seems to be the reality. With his message he is able to break assumptions that have been in politics for the last decade, no one has seen this in a long time.

Today, Obama got the majority of latino voters as well… what he means when he talk about “past vs future” is that we have to stop looking at politics in the same dimensions as we have been in the past and that a message of hope & unity is more important than simplifying things to the level of racial divisions.

I don’t disagree with the polls based on race, I just don’t find them useful to predict future results, Obama appeals to everyone in his message… instead of asking what color is the person who voted for Obama is, you should be asking different questions if you are interested in finding trends that will be useful in making predictions.

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